Monday, July 27, 2009

Cash for Clunkers - Would you take advantage of it?

I'm sure you've heard about it by now. It seems that every time I turn on the radio or the television (I've even seen it advertised on some websites) I'm bombarded with "cash for clunkers" offers. It just passed through our government, and is EVERYWHERE!

I'd heard rumblings about this government incentive to rid the roads of gas-guzzling rides for the past couple of months, but there was no official announcement until just recently. It turns out that the start date for this program was on July 1 and it will be in effect until November 1 or until the $1 billion set aside for this program runs out (whichever comes first).
In short, the Cash for Clunkers (officially "Car Allowance Rebate System" or CARS) program is a government stimulus package that essentially provides a rebate to any person trading in a car that gets a combined (hwy and city) fuel economy of 18 mpg or less. The rebate amount you get depends on how many miles per gallon the new car that you buy gets compared to your old "clunker". Buying a car that gets more than 4, but less than 10 mpg more than the car you're trading in yeilds a $3,500 rebate. Should your new car have a combined fuel economy of 10 mpg or more than the car you're trading in, you will receive a rebate of $4,500.

There are some restrictions, but cars.gov does a great job of answering a bunch of questions you may have. One caveat is that this only works with new car purchases. There are also some limitations with particular work trucks. I encourage you to do your own research if you think this a good idea.

Now that all of the technical stuff is out of the way, I get to the point of this blog post. Should we trade in The Love Boat for a couple grand towards a new car? More specifically, a black 2009 Honda Fit Sport with a manual transmission, some flashy rims and a thumpin' stereo? Raise your hand if you're ridden with me lately and have heard the "doo-doo bass".
Photo courtesy of Scott Dukes via Flickr.com at flickr.com/photos/scottdukes/375969150I did the math and found out that our trusty old van gets 18 mpg (even the original listing when the car debuted says 18 mpg, combined). The Fit gets an average of 31 mpg. That's roughly a 55% increase in fuel economy. (31 / (18 - 1) = % difference) So, if we currently spend $150/mo. on gas for the van (we like to travel), then I could assume that we'd be spending $82.5/month on gas. Wait...is that right? Somebody help me with the math. I manage projects for a living now. My math skills have gone out the window. Assuming that's correct, we'd be saving $67.5/month...minus the monthly cost to actually pay for the car.

And therein lies our dilemma. All the numbers out on the table and we're probably looking at around $100/month to own a spankin' new Honda Fit Sport (and helping out the environment that much more). Oh yeah, the cool thing about the "cash for clunkers" program is that the car you trade in MUST be sent to a scrap yard and "...be crushed or shredded so that it will not be resold for use in the United States or elsewhere as an automobile." Kinda hard to stomach the thought of that happening to the van, but it is nice to know that we were the last ones to drive it and that the terrible emissions from that car will cease upon selling it.

So, with all of that said, I'm asking for your help and your opinion. What should we do? If you were in our situation, with a van worth (maybe) $1,000 and over 260,000 miles, would you pull the trigger on the new car and take advantage of this rebate? Whatever your answer, tell me why you think what you do.

8 comments:

Eric said...

So you're going from a car with no car payment to one with roughly $300/m.

So you'll pay $300 + $82.5 = $382.50 a month for the Honda Fit.

So currently you're paying $150/mo for the Love Boat vs. $382.50 for the Honda Fit.

Now, I don't know how much you pay a month for the up keep of the Love Boat, which given the age might be significant. I don't know if it's $230/m significant (difference of $382.50 and $150). I envy the fact that you don't have a car payment. Though a brand new shiny car is alluring.

If it was up to me I'd tell you to go buy that condo downtown, buy an awesome bike for $500 - $1000 and commute to work. That'll drop you gas cost down to $0/m plus you'll get that awesome $8000 rebate for buying a home. Of course you're not that eco-friendly are you?

Erik said...

Thanks for the feedback Eric! I like the idea of biking or walking to work, but having that condo would be a necessity for that to happen. And besides, the $8,000 credit is for first-time home buyers, so we don't qualify.

As for the monthly cost, I calculated it to be right around $170 for the new car (after rebate and small down payment). If you take the $67.5 that we'd be saving per month on gas, then the monthly cost for the car hovers right around $100.

The maintenance cost for the van is about $20 more per oil change because I use the high-mileage oil. Also, I'm soon due for a radiator flush and new brakes, but nothing major (knock on wood).

Does that change your suggestion/response?

Ashley said...

Hey-
I say trade it. The van isn't going to last forever, and certainly not without some major work in the next few years. Considering most cars come with at least a two year warranty, you'd likely save money. Plus, at some point the van WILL give out, and you'll have to get a car. Might as well do it while you can get a new car and have part of it paid for. Just my opinion.

Erik said...

Very true, Chris!

What I really need now are some tips on car negotiating tactics.

I've heard I should basically go in there not even mentioning the Cash for Clunkers deal, then drop that on them at the very end, after they've given me the "best they can offer" without any sort of trade in.

Got any other suggestions?

Linda said...

Just get something that will get you to Michigan and Florida safely without breaking down beside the road!
1. Make sure you qualify for the rebate.
2. Look at several new car choices to check out all the current offers. (which you've probably done)
My opinion: Ditch the Love Boat while the memories are still FOND!
Your mommy loves you . . .

Jessicca said...

Yes! Now is the time. As much as I love the boat, she's not going to last forever. She's had a good life. You can let her go and feel good.

Erik said...

Thanks for the comments, mom and Jess!

We will miss the Love Boat if we decide to sell it, but doing so while we're still "fond" of it is probably smart.

Mom, in reply to your list:
1. Done
2. Done
...and...
3. I think I might possibly be more anal than you when it comes to this sort of thing. I guess I have you to "thank". Hahah!!

Whatever we end up doing, I'll be sure Sony knows how to change a tire. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Go for it!!! Our landlords just bought a Fit and they love it! We got our Honda Element in Knoxville from West Side Honda. But don't ask Aaron anything about negotiating, ha ha ha. We are so glad we got the new car. I remember the first time I drove it a long distance I had so much peace about not breaking down!
We also paid it off in one year! Every month we would set a goal to put all our extra money towards a second payment! We would try to spend as little money as possible through the month to squeeze out extra cash. (Line dry your clothes, only buy things that are one sale, make things from scratch etc.) It was like a competition that we were working towards together and was really good for our marriage!
Anyway as other people said eventually the van will need to be replaced and with this gov. program you will get some cash for it. Can you strip it and sell any of the parts first??? If you are in a place to get a new car right now. I know with you guys in school it may be a stretch. Tough decision!
- Don't know if I helped any...
Amy